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PostSubject: New Mosin Stock   Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:18 am

Well I managed to get some time to start on the new stock I've been waiting 3 months to do.

It based on the Sako TRG stock in shape & style, it's laminated, made up from 8 pieces of 3/8" Birch Ply.

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Plywood panels 12x48"
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Roughly cut to shape and 35" long, then glued & clamped.

More to come Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:12 am

The results of the lay up, showing a good gluing with no discernible voids.
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Rough marking out of the profile
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Rough cutting out of profile
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The overall thickness of the lay up is 3", this is to allow for a very broad and flat fore end.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:34 am

Heck ya!!!!!!!!!! popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:19 am

Glad your enjoying the show, here's some more Wink

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Started to inlet the magazine first, before shaping the stock to make it easier to get the magazine in the right place, and also to use the mag as a guide of sorts.

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In deeper than I would like, but at least it gives me plenty of wiggle room, for Aluminium bedding pillars.

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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:25 am

What glue did you use?  Epoxy?

One thing I always thought was kewl was to use different colors of epoxy on different layers of the wood. Then once its profiled and sanded, looks crazy kewl.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:38 am

The glue I used was Gorilla glue, it's a waterproof wood glue that is very tough.
I have no idea if it'll work, just thought I'd try it as I got three bottles of the stuff.

I am going to stain it when it's finished, just not sure what colour yet.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:00 pm

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Used the table saw to help remove the excess.

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The wide flat fore end.

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The right tool for the right job... the Paring Chisel

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The results of the Paring Chisel

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Another example of the right tool for the right job... the Spoke Shave

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Rounding off the check rest with the Spoke Shave

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More rough shaping of the check rest

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Progress, starting to look like a rifle stock Cool
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:26 pm

Outstanding work so far!
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:36 am

Not sure what colour to stain it yet.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:55 am

By the way this is what I hope to end up with, obviously not a Sako TRG, but the general look & feel of the TRG.

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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:34 pm

More work done

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The heel is now cut.

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Final profile, now ready for shaping.

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Grip is marked out.

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Shaped with brute force and chisels.

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With some second cuts with a rasp.

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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:45 pm

lol, Dang it! You make it look easy. So easy I will probably try this some day. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:09 pm

For a laminated stock, made form sheet ply, you need loads of clamps, and if you think you've got enough you need more.
I used 18 clamps plus a vice to clamp this thing up.

The other way is a board press, basically two boards 2-3x thicker than the ply sheets your using, say 1-1.5" if your using 1/2" ply sheets.

all around the edge is holes every 2 inch for a bolt, so when you lay up the stock, you tighten up all the bolts and the ply sheets get compressed evenly.

When I'm finished I'llpost a picture of all the tools I used.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:25 pm

I'll prolly use composite laminate and vacuum table.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:33 pm

That's certainly another way to do it.

Well I've finished shaping, going to post the pics in a mo Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:50 pm

As posted before here's the pics, as the shaping was completed.
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I've left imperfection deliberately, so to add character.

Now the seemingly endless finishing, but not before inletting the action.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:14 pm

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I've left imperfection deliberately, so to add character.


Sometimes thats the best way. shweet   Looking great!
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:22 am

If I take out the imperfections, it looks like a boring piece of Plywood, but with the imperfections, you get to see the laminations, it gives kind of grain effect.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:56 am

Ok the major inletting of the action is done.

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Action laid in, but not screwed down.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:02 am

Action screwed down, with magazine in place, to check where the stock needs more fitting.

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As you can see, still needs some fettling to get it true.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:07 am

Sling points next.

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Rear sling point

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The sling I'm using is the one form the British SA80, it's actually a very good sling one which I really like.
But for it to work properly the sling must be fitted to the left hand side of the stock with rigid sling fittings.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:12 am

Next recoil bolt.

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The rifle in it's finished condition, besides from stock fittings and finishing touches, it's pretty much as it will be shot.

Which I hope maybe tomorrow night or the weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:15 am

Oh and she weighs in at 4.5Kg, just short of 10lb, a nice weight for a rifle of her type.
Should be s nice pleasant shoot.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:22 am

That is one heck of a homemade stock. Absolutley gorgeous. Don't you love it when a project comes together?

By the way, what type of bolt handle is that? Specifically the knob? that looks neat....
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:58 am

Awesome work! shweet
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:24 am

Thanks fella's Very Happy

The bolt handle I made, a piece of 1/2" mild steel bar, the grooves in the knob are cut with a parting off tool.
The shank is then TIG/GTAW welded to the bolt body, the the ground on a bench grinder to produce the desired shape.

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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:13 pm

Oh so nice! Im thinking im gonna have to update my bolt handle to this new 'scalloped' style. I really like it. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:29 am

I alway preferred a ball, but after shooting rapid fire once with another bolt gun, I nearly missed the shot due to wet hands slipping off the knob.

But, this seems to have solved the issue, and is fairly comfortable to operate.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:15 pm

Got the sling bars done tonight.

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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:44 pm

Well the last coat of wood oil has been applied.

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Drying in the sun.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:03 pm

Shocked  Dang! That looks midevil!  Nice work shweet
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:37 pm

Thanks, now I've just got to bed the action, and then go and shoot it.

Mind you if I don't find a decent piece of German glass on ebay soon for the right price, I'll be shooting with Iron sights.

But if Iron sights were good enough for Simo Hayha, they'll be good enough for me.
All it takes is practice.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:45 pm

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But if Iron sights were good enough for Simo Hayha, they'll be good enough for me.
All it takes is practice.

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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:54 am

Just got to see what I can do to improve the standard Mosin sights.  scratchhead
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:16 pm

that looks bad ass
lets see some pix when you get it all back together
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:22 pm

Here you go back together and ready for action. sniper

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For those who like an arty shot Wink
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:35 pm

wow you must read minds lol
it looks pretty heavy have you weighed it yet.?
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:45 pm

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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:57 pm

She's weighing in at 5Kg, or just over 11lb.
But I didn't intend on it being a lightweight build.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:00 pm

that's not bad mine with the archangel is at 10lbs
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:04 pm

That surprises me I'd expect the Archangel to be lighter than that  idk
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:05 pm

Or is that with scope?
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:33 pm

yes complete no mag though
the archangel is pretty heavey
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:49 pm

Hey, still surprises me, but sometimes you need the weight.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:25 pm

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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:59 pm

that rifle looks freakin' sweet. Smile Have you thought of a name yet? (I suggest MoSako) lol What a Face What a Face

The archangel is actually just a tad heavier than the wood factory stock. Im not sure exactly, but I would bet it has to do with the mechanisms invlolved in the adjustments in the back, as well as the reinforcement around the bedding. The average mosin is pretty heavy anyways, I doubt weight was a big concern for the design.

I'll weigh mine when I get a chance, but with the ginormous scope, aluminum cnc machined mount, and what-not mine is pretty darn heavy. Definitely not a pack rifle, but a drag to a stand and hope it doesn't go missing when you leave it there for the next day. lol.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:22 am

Thanks for the comments, and the suggestion of a name.

As per weight, believe it or not it's about right for me to use in the field, the sling I fitted helps a lot.
Especially when it's slung like biathlon rifle on the back.

Just need to zero the sights and free up the magazine, I found it was pinching the rounds last night.
So I think the stock is binding at some point on the mag.

I am hoping to be able to get a target set up this afternoon, so I will post the details later.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:03 am

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I am hoping to be able to get a target set up this afternoon, so I will post the details later.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:15 pm

Went to set up the target today, and discovered I can't actually see the target due to the jungle that has ground up around the place.

So before I can shoot I need to clear the jungle in order to see the target.
But I've got 100m with a decent backstop.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mosin Stock   Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:20 pm

if you have enough ammo you can clear the jungle as you shoot
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